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		<title>By: ann ledesma</title>
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		<dc:creator>ann ledesma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda has said everything I could say about this tentacled monster (PTSD) except that for  me, rages take the place of exhaustion.  

Years of so-called &quot;therapy&quot; with several practitioners has only aggravated this thing and I chalk it up to the fact that most standard therapy marinates you in the past.  Marinating one  of us in the past, to me, is like treating an ulcer with pepperoni pizza.

My persistent feeling which nothing can remove is that FATE has hated me from the day I was born.  My closest friends (?) tell me I&#039;m one of those people who no matter what they do ir how hard they try, get  kicked up the butt  So have several &quot;therapists.&quot;  To put it mildly, this does not help, and in fact, consolidates my fear about being the plaything of a malicious universe.  Think the old &quot;Twilight Zone&quot; feature, Jack-in-the-Box.

I really like this site and can relate to those posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda has said everything I could say about this tentacled monster (PTSD) except that for  me, rages take the place of exhaustion.  </p>
<p>Years of so-called &#8220;therapy&#8221; with several practitioners has only aggravated this thing and I chalk it up to the fact that most standard therapy marinates you in the past.  Marinating one  of us in the past, to me, is like treating an ulcer with pepperoni pizza.</p>
<p>My persistent feeling which nothing can remove is that FATE has hated me from the day I was born.  My closest friends (?) tell me I&#8217;m one of those people who no matter what they do ir how hard they try, get  kicked up the butt  So have several &#8220;therapists.&#8221;  To put it mildly, this does not help, and in fact, consolidates my fear about being the plaything of a malicious universe.  Think the old &#8220;Twilight Zone&#8221; feature, Jack-in-the-Box.</p>
<p>I really like this site and can relate to those posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Describing PTSD for me, is like trying to claw my way up and out of the deep hole that I have fallen into. I get so far and then something will happen. I will witness a similar tragedy, I hear sirens, or helicopters, drive by an accident, etc., and I slowly slide right back down into the hole. I then realize that I am safe there and don&#039;t really want to leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Describing PTSD for me, is like trying to claw my way up and out of the deep hole that I have fallen into. I get so far and then something will happen. I will witness a similar tragedy, I hear sirens, or helicopters, drive by an accident, etc., and I slowly slide right back down into the hole. I then realize that I am safe there and don&#8217;t really want to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya Baricevic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanya Baricevic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me PTS ... is simply a Dis-Ease that I had, which was dragging my level of energy down, enabling the manifestation of emotional trauma, and physical ailment.

By understanding about energy, and the fact that I am energy, it gave me control over the Dis-Ease, and enabled me to unhook the trailer attached to my vehicle.

I now travel lighter, with a knowing that I am in control of what other energies affect me and my wellbeing.

My body is a vehicle for my energy, or anima.

Namaste</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me PTS &#8230; is simply a Dis-Ease that I had, which was dragging my level of energy down, enabling the manifestation of emotional trauma, and physical ailment.</p>
<p>By understanding about energy, and the fact that I am energy, it gave me control over the Dis-Ease, and enabled me to unhook the trailer attached to my vehicle.</p>
<p>I now travel lighter, with a knowing that I am in control of what other energies affect me and my wellbeing.</p>
<p>My body is a vehicle for my energy, or anima.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Rosenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marj - No, those symptoms are present in all forms of PTSD. The difference lies mostly in the way trauma was experienced, i.e. over a prolonged period of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marj &#8211; No, those symptoms are present in all forms of PTSD. The difference lies mostly in the way trauma was experienced, i.e. over a prolonged period of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Marj aka Thriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marj aka Thriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, do nightmares, flashbacks, numbing and startle response go under complex PTSD?  I was going to &quot;ditto&quot; those.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can also relate to Lynda&#039;s adrenal stress problems.  Here&#039;s a good article:  http://www.womentowomen.com/adrenalfatigue/adrenalglandnutrition.aspx&lt;br /&gt;Also, I just started taking Enzymatic Therapy&#039;s &quot;Adrenal Stress End&quot; supplement.   It could be just a placebo effect, but I swear I&#039;ve noticed some changes already after taking it for about two weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, do nightmares, flashbacks, numbing and startle response go under complex PTSD?  I was going to &#8220;ditto&#8221; those.</p>
<p>I can also relate to Lynda&#8217;s adrenal stress problems.  Here&#8217;s a good article:  <a href="http://www.womentowomen.com/adrenalfatigue/adrenalglandnutrition.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.womentowomen.com/adrenalfatigue/adrenalglandnutrition.aspx</a><br />Also, I just started taking Enzymatic Therapy&#8217;s &#8220;Adrenal Stress End&#8221; supplement.   It could be just a placebo effect, but I swear I&#8217;ve noticed some changes already after taking it for about two weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Rosenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear about the difference between PTSD and Complex PTSD: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First referred to by Judith Herman in her book, &lt;i&gt;Trauma and Recovery&lt;/i&gt;, Complex PTSD (C-PTSD) is a psychological injury that results from protracted, prolonged or repeated exposure to traumatic events and circumstances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Complex PTSD is a variation of PTSD and is delineated by:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. emotional dysregulation&lt;br /&gt;2. pathological dissociation&lt;br /&gt;3. stress related breakdowns in bodily health</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear about the difference between PTSD and Complex PTSD: </p>
<p>First referred to by Judith Herman in her book, <i>Trauma and Recovery</i>, Complex PTSD (C-PTSD) is a psychological injury that results from protracted, prolonged or repeated exposure to traumatic events and circumstances.</p>
<p>Complex PTSD is a variation of PTSD and is delineated by:</p>
<p>1. emotional dysregulation<br />2. pathological dissociation<br />3. stress related breakdowns in bodily health</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hinsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Hinsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynda:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can relate to a lot of what you&#039;ve written and so I&#039;ve taken your bullet points and reworked the ones that I ued to be able to relate to. I guess my PTSD was complex too. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Endlessly reliving the nightmare, unable to wake up&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Exhausted&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Shrunken Life&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Unbearabel Emotional Pain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Attempts to escape reality&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. Very innaccurate self image. Self-image badly damaged&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12. Psychological and Physical symptoms, such as an extreme Startle Reflex, Recurring Nightmares, Flashbacks, Phobias, and Disturbed Sleep Patterns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13. Pro&#039;s blame the victim - in an unhealthy way based on hindsight and wishful thinking based on projection from &quot;It could never happen to me therefore ....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynda:</p>
<p>I can relate to a lot of what you&#8217;ve written and so I&#8217;ve taken your bullet points and reworked the ones that I ued to be able to relate to. I guess my PTSD was complex too. </p>
<p>1. Endlessly reliving the nightmare, unable to wake up</p>
<p>2. Exhausted</p>
<p>4. Shrunken Life</p>
<p>5. Unbearabel Emotional Pain</p>
<p>6. Attempts to escape reality</p>
<p>10. Very innaccurate self image. Self-image badly damaged</p>
<p>12. Psychological and Physical symptoms, such as an extreme Startle Reflex, Recurring Nightmares, Flashbacks, Phobias, and Disturbed Sleep Patterns.</p>
<p>13. Pro&#8217;s blame the victim &#8211; in an unhealthy way based on hindsight and wishful thinking based on projection from &#8220;It could never happen to me therefore &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: svasti</title>
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		<dc:creator>svasti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything that Mike &amp; Lynda wrote, I can relate to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Definitely, up until I had EMDR, it was literally a never-ending nightmare. Something that would recede a little, then come back with a vengence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How I define PTSD now (as opposed to before when I felt very out of control) is this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A &#039;fracture&#039; in your experience of life, caused by a traumatic event. This fracture is caused in your mind, by you (and no one else). Its a response for attempting to cope with what happened. But unfortunately, its an ill-informed response. And its one that makes you feel like something is being done &#039;to you&#039; instead of what&#039;s really going on, which is that your own mind is causing you to re-live your trauma over and over again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because we are terrified, we feel helpless and it is difficult to break the cycle. The longer it is left, the worse it becomes. I wrote about this in a post called &lt;a href=&quot;http://svasti.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/never-ending-nightmare/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Never-ending nightmare&#039;&lt;/a&gt;. It is certainly tough to accept that our own mind is the cause of the terror we&#039;re experiencing over and over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, the key is reaching out, as uncomfortable as it feels. Then, getting the help you need. Because it is entirely possible to treat and recover from PTSD, as you well know. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything that Mike &#038; Lynda wrote, I can relate to.</p>
<p>Definitely, up until I had EMDR, it was literally a never-ending nightmare. Something that would recede a little, then come back with a vengence.</p>
<p>How I define PTSD now (as opposed to before when I felt very out of control) is this:</p>
<p>A &#39;fracture&#39; in your experience of life, caused by a traumatic event. This fracture is caused in your mind, by you (and no one else). Its a response for attempting to cope with what happened. But unfortunately, its an ill-informed response. And its one that makes you feel like something is being done &#39;to you&#39; instead of what&#39;s really going on, which is that your own mind is causing you to re-live your trauma over and over again.</p>
<p>Because we are terrified, we feel helpless and it is difficult to break the cycle. The longer it is left, the worse it becomes. I wrote about this in a post called <a href="http://svasti.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/never-ending-nightmare/" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Never-ending nightmare&#8217;</a>. It is certainly tough to accept that our own mind is the cause of the terror we&#8217;re experiencing over and over.</p>
<p>Anyway, the key is reaching out, as uncomfortable as it feels. Then, getting the help you need. Because it is entirely possible to treat and recover from PTSD, as you well know. <img src='http://healmyptsd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lynda Robinson Stepnowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynda Robinson Stepnowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought of a big #13 to add to my list of what PTSD means to me. This last one is far too pervasive and debilitating to be left out…but it’s not easy to put into words. I know this one is too long and rambling, but it’s the best I can do at the moment, with a topic that hits so painfully close to where I’ve been hurt the most: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13.  There is a strong tendency for medical professionals and lay people alike to “Blame the Victim” of multiple traumas, due to their ignorance of what long-term, extreme abuse will do to a person’s sense of self, and how crippling it is to one’s ability to exercise sound judgment, or form healthy relationships. Accusations of Masochism, of “Setting Yourself Up For Failure,” and of “Provoking” their abusers into mistreating them, are all too common; along with outright refusal to believe their story of abuse (denial being the normal first human reaction to any horror). When a severely traumatized person with zero self-esteem has been in a string of abusive relationships, she is commonly told: “Lightning doesn’t strike the same place twice,” or “The whole world can’t be wrong and you right,” or “The common denominator in all those failed relationships is YOU.”  All of which further injures the trauma victim’s self-esteem and sense of justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought of a big #13 to add to my list of what PTSD means to me. This last one is far too pervasive and debilitating to be left out…but it’s not easy to put into words. I know this one is too long and rambling, but it’s the best I can do at the moment, with a topic that hits so painfully close to where I’ve been hurt the most: </p>
<p>13.  There is a strong tendency for medical professionals and lay people alike to “Blame the Victim” of multiple traumas, due to their ignorance of what long-term, extreme abuse will do to a person’s sense of self, and how crippling it is to one’s ability to exercise sound judgment, or form healthy relationships. Accusations of Masochism, of “Setting Yourself Up For Failure,” and of “Provoking” their abusers into mistreating them, are all too common; along with outright refusal to believe their story of abuse (denial being the normal first human reaction to any horror). When a severely traumatized person with zero self-esteem has been in a string of abusive relationships, she is commonly told: “Lightning doesn’t strike the same place twice,” or “The whole world can’t be wrong and you right,” or “The common denominator in all those failed relationships is YOU.”  All of which further injures the trauma victim’s self-esteem and sense of justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda Robinson Stepnowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynda Robinson Stepnowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele, I know you are looking for a much more concise personal definition of PTSD than the long rambling essay I just posted, so here are twelve points I’ve distilled from my prior post:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. A sense of being STUCK in the trauma, like being in a nightmare and unable to wake up&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Feeling physically and emotionally exhausted, depleted by the trauma&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Easily overwhelmed by life, often unable to function, even at performing simple tasks, like a bogged-down or “frozen” computer &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. A seriously curtailed life due to instinctive “guarding” behavior, through avoiding situations/people  that could cause further trauma or a trigger&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Unbearable emotional pain, i.e.: debilitating depression, overwhelming, paralyzing anxiety, and terrifying rages that may induce fear of “becoming like the abuser.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Attempts to alleviate emotional pain with drinking, drugging, affairs, and/or other addictive, reality-escaping behaviors; possibly including thoughts and/or attempts at suicide as a way to permanently stop the pain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.  Feeling physically and emotionally unequipped to survive and cope alone, driven to desperately seeking someone to “rescue” and provide support&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. Having a skewed, unhealthy idea about the meaning and expression of “love”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. Possessing little or no relationship skills&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. Having a skewed, extremely negative self-image, or a sense of having no personal identity&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11. Vulnerable to repeated abusive relationships, due to the lack of self-esteem, poor relationship skills, skewed understanding of what it means to love, and the need to be rescued/supported&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12. Psychological and Physical symptoms, such as an extreme Startle Reflex, Recurring Nightmares, Flashbacks, Phobias, and Disturbed Sleep Patterns&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One final thought: My personal definition of PTSD may only apply to what some call &quot;Complex PTSD,&quot; which is caused by long-term, repeated traumas/abuse, particularly in captivity or after years of child abuse. People who have developed PTSD due to a single severe trauma which occurred after they were adult, probably do not have their basic sense of Self so strongly affected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lynda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele, I know you are looking for a much more concise personal definition of PTSD than the long rambling essay I just posted, so here are twelve points I’ve distilled from my prior post:</p>
<p>1. A sense of being STUCK in the trauma, like being in a nightmare and unable to wake up</p>
<p>2. Feeling physically and emotionally exhausted, depleted by the trauma</p>
<p>3. Easily overwhelmed by life, often unable to function, even at performing simple tasks, like a bogged-down or “frozen” computer </p>
<p>4. A seriously curtailed life due to instinctive “guarding” behavior, through avoiding situations/people  that could cause further trauma or a trigger</p>
<p>5. Unbearable emotional pain, i.e.: debilitating depression, overwhelming, paralyzing anxiety, and terrifying rages that may induce fear of “becoming like the abuser.”</p>
<p>6. Attempts to alleviate emotional pain with drinking, drugging, affairs, and/or other addictive, reality-escaping behaviors; possibly including thoughts and/or attempts at suicide as a way to permanently stop the pain</p>
<p>7.  Feeling physically and emotionally unequipped to survive and cope alone, driven to desperately seeking someone to “rescue” and provide support</p>
<p>8. Having a skewed, unhealthy idea about the meaning and expression of “love”</p>
<p>9. Possessing little or no relationship skills</p>
<p>10. Having a skewed, extremely negative self-image, or a sense of having no personal identity</p>
<p>11. Vulnerable to repeated abusive relationships, due to the lack of self-esteem, poor relationship skills, skewed understanding of what it means to love, and the need to be rescued/supported</p>
<p>12. Psychological and Physical symptoms, such as an extreme Startle Reflex, Recurring Nightmares, Flashbacks, Phobias, and Disturbed Sleep Patterns</p>
<p>One final thought: My personal definition of PTSD may only apply to what some call &#8220;Complex PTSD,&#8221; which is caused by long-term, repeated traumas/abuse, particularly in captivity or after years of child abuse. People who have developed PTSD due to a single severe trauma which occurred after they were adult, probably do not have their basic sense of Self so strongly affected.</p>
<p>Lynda</p>
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